Lech Walesa, the former president of Poland and a historical figure in the fight against the USSR, urged the West to go further than liberating Ukraine, which has been under Russian military attack since late February. In an exclusive interview with LCI on Friday, the founder of the Solidarnosc movement also made the call “Free Russia”.
“Even if Ukraine wins this war, in five years we will have the same thing, in ten years we will see the appearance of another Putin.”– he warned. To avoid this scenario. “Today we must force the change of this political system, otherwise we will organize a people’s uprisingRussians, suggests the former president of Poland.
Unless there is a complete change of the political regime in Moscow, world security can only be ensured by the dismemberment of the current Russia, which in its eyes has remained imperial.Today, there are 60 annexed nations like the Ukrainians. It would be necessary to increase these peoples annexed to Russia (…). Either change Russia’s political system or return it to a population of less than 50 million“. The Russian Federation currently has 144 million inhabitants.
While he acknowledges that the West has its own interests in expanding its influence and power, he emphasizes that it does so democratically and therefore legitimately;We must understand that the West develops its power through NATO, through the EU, expanding, but it is through democratic means. Russia does it with violence“.
For the former leader of Solidarnosc, the world will now be divided again.Now there are two systems: on the one hand, democratic countries and NATO, which want to expand, but through democratic means, seeking the decisions of the people, and on the other hand, Russia and China, which are resorting to old methods. annexation.»
Lech Walesa remains tough on the West, which he says is deluded into thinking that Russia will become harmless. According to him, this mistake comes from the Gorbachev years.Russia should have been defeated. But Gorbachev was too smart for that. We said then.“There was Stalin, Brezhnev, but Gorbachev, he is good.” So we left them alone. Russia has been waiting for troubling times and now they want to continue like centuries and continue to annex peoples to their empire. That was our mistake then. I wanted to do it differently, but they wouldn’t let me. »
Source: Le Figaro
