In a November 2020 phone call between Sen. Ted Cruz and Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo, the Texas Republican said Donald Trump’s allies need “real evidence” to back up the then-president’s claims of voter fraud if they want to for appeals to be presented to the court.
“I can’t just be, you know, ‘Someone tweeted this.’ There has to be provable facts that can be presented with evidence, because that’s what a court will be looking for — not just an allegation, but actual facts,” he said in a recording of the call obtained Nov. 7, 2020, by MSNBC.
Cruz added that he is “hopeful” that Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who has led legal efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential results, “comes on the show tomorrow and has some of those facts,” adding, “I hope that the legal team continues to present the specific evidence, because that is what will be needed to prevail in court”.
Although no such evidence was produced, Cruz continued to lead an effort to block President Joe Biden’s certification of victory by pushing Trump’s lie that the election was rigged.
The recording was made by a former Fox News producer who is suing the network. Abby Grossberg, who worked as a producer for Bartiromo and Tucker Carlson, accused the network of harassment and said it pressured her to give misleading testimony as part of the $1.6 billion Dominion Voting Systems defamation suit of dollars.
The recordings he made of off-air conversations between Fox hosts and their guests, as well as his testimony in the case, helped the network to a $787.5 million settlement with Dominion. Fox News has denied that account.
Dominion is suing Fox News over its coverage of the 2020 election, accusing it of amplifying malicious and false claims that the polling technology company was part of a conspiracy to rig the vote against Trump. Fox News admitted in a statement about the settlement that it had broadcast false claims about Dominion.
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