Fox News contributor Ted Williams told viewers of the right-wing network that “we need to talk about guns” after yet another mass shooting on Monday.
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,” Williams, a defense attorney and former federal special agent, told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto after the shooting in Louisville, Kentucky.
At least four people were killed after a man opened fire inside a bank with an AR-15-style rifle Monday morning, according to law enforcement. It comes two weeks after a school massacre in Nashville, Tenn., that left three 9-year-old students and three adults dead. The shooter in that incident was carrying three weapons: an assault rifle, a shotgun and a handgun.
“Just two weeks ago, I was standing in front of a camera when you had some kids, some kids, filmed in Nashville, Tennessee, with a person who, by the way, had an AR-15,” Williams said. “And from what we’ve been told here, Neil, this individual had the same type of weapon. And when you look at mental illness … and that gun, it’s a dangerous mix, and we have to do something about it in this society.”
He added that he was “sick and tired” of reporting on such shootings in recent weeks and dismissed the idea that it was too early to talk about it.
“We need to talk about guns. AR-15s are killing our children and our citizens in this country and we have to do something about it,” he said.
Later in the segment, Williams called for “red flag” laws across the country that work to take guns out of the hands of people deemed a danger to themselves or others.
Fox News anchors and hosts routinely shift the blame to other issues rather than discuss gun law reforms in the wake of gun violence. Another network host said Monday that the shooting will inevitably spark discussions about firearms, but added, “I hope politicians and so-called leaders don’t get into it right now.”
Williams was joined on Cavuto’s program by former FBI Special Agent Nicole Parker, who drew backlash after the Nashville attack when she called for better “side door” security at schools without mentioning the weapons used in the massacre. The Nashville shooter fired through locked side doors into the school.

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