Camille Kouchner. “I was in a spinning of a boy, I wanted to copy it”

After a public earthquake Family Grande:which gave birth to the production of #metoiceneste and CIIVISE (an independent sexual abuse commission of children), Kushner publishes its first novel today. Immortal (1)That asks both family structures and gender identity with K’s history and his relationship with his heart twin, Ben. Interviewer:

MEDIME FIGARO .- What motivated you to write this first novel?
Camille Kouchner: I thought about what we did with childhood. Time passes, we grow up, we grow up, sometimes we make children and what remains from his childhood. Some celebrate it, others reject it. I am one of those who did not have memories of their childhood, but I did something good. And then, obviously, I asked it that it was different when we grew up when we develop, depending on that we were assigned to us. Does childhood go in the same way? We resist adults norm. How

It’s a story of a couple or more correct DUO. Can you tell us about Ben and K?
I have this feature to be a boy in touch with a boy, and I wanted to write it again, that is, the trust that gives it into mankind, regardless of gender. I wanted to embody this idea through these two children of the same age, one boy, the other girl. Were they going to develop the same way at the same time? But I didn’t want it to be a pair of story. I wanted it to be a love story. They grow fusional brother and sister, and at the same time they are not the same blood. The novel wants to question the categories of family, woman, men, friendship … I believe that what gave me the stimulus of this book is the connection between Heathcliff and Kati Hauts de HurleventKatie who ends “I Heathcliff” saying. He is not his friend, he is not his brother, he is not his lover. He is.

We can only hit the violence of parents, fathers, and mothers, which are at all fiber and giving children to them without hearing them. There is a link Familia Grande: For you?
No, I don’t believe. For example, my mother was very sweet. And then I’m glad that Family Grande: Could achieve social awareness and concrete gestures, but for me this story is part of the past. I find it very important not to match a certain family, as it is likely to break the words of others. The issue of the incarnation of the icon is a real question for me. It is not necessary that the unique case should hide 160,000 children a year to the victims of Incest, which should be said, just as we must continue to work on awareness. Immortal does not describe personal history, we are far away Familia Grande: But I also tried to study the relationship between different generations to throw a bridge. I think we can hear in the fifties. Many people born after the war expressed themselves, they received great strength and space. Thirthieth and those with twenties seem to seem to me too much. Not quina. My children tell me I’m boomeuse because I was born after the war. It was as if the generations were united and mine did not exist.

You want to shed light for a delight.
Today’s trials: Betaram, Scouarnec … – are yesterday’s works. The child’s attention was not the same as today, regardless of social circles and parents’ political beliefs, and if I share the beliefs that we do not speak of gynecological violence.

There is also a question of sexual violence, and we are returning to the family. It’s not a member of K’s family who manages to them, but almost …
The #Metoo movement allowed to increase sexual violence, we saw CI working with many hotels and revealed many elements, but I did not see the idea of ​​the family. We continue to reduce it to the nuclear family, while our families absolutely correspond to it. So I created a character we don’t know what to give in this context. Then, if K discovers us what he feels, I was convinced that one was wonderful if he came out of his subjectivity, what happens to him.

The famous gray area …
Right. They are twenty years old who are twenty years old, those who are thirty years old, those who are forty years old, they will have the same view of the two main characters. We are with K, the reader shares his innerness, but from the outside. He does not complain. It agrees. We find these questions in all current stories – a good victim, a bad victim who returns there, he who does not return to it ImmortalIt showed that whatever happened to K is destructive to him.

Immortal Refers to cancer, of which K – cancer cells are “immortal”, as well as the structure of your book …
Yes, we have a unit cell, then the section, then the division. and so onThe issue of gender here appears here, with this idea that at first we were all girls, and boys, before the standards are our behavior. The mother of K. decorates its body, as well as Ben’s father asks him to take the right step or want to teach him to fight. Someone who sees the attacker is responsible, but that responsibility is not only an individual, because Olivia Gazalene was very well shown very well The myth of the injury Trap for both sexesA number of boys, men, and the fruit of a certain concept of masculinity, the transmission of surety, from external social constructions, which end in the domestic unit.

(1) Immortal Camille Kouchner, Ed. DU throw, 224 pages, 20 euros.