“If you care what the world thinks about you, you won’t get out of bed in the morning.” Anna Wintour’s self-esteem lesson.

Anna and Lena. Director of Editorial Content at Condé Nast and Global Editorial Director at: Vogue:Anna Wintour was a guest of Lena Mahfouf’s podcast “Canapé Six Places” a few days ago.

During the 50-minute discussion, Anna Wintour specifically touched on her professional rise, her political commitment, her ambitions, but also her vision of life. And give some advice after the hostess’s confession. “I’m a confident woman unless I’m told what to do by a man in a suit and tie in the office. And I immediately become a little girl again,” assured Lena Mahfouf. “I’m afraid of what people will say about me,” said the woman who has 4.6 million subscribers on Instagram.

Not a topic

But for the fashion world’s most mysterious and feared woman, the way others view it is not an issue. “If you care about what the outside world or the social media world is saying about you, you’re not going to get out of bed in the morning,” he said, his iconic black glasses perched on his nose. Because it is better for a journalist to focus on being “rigorous”, “open to the world” and “fearless” than on the point of view of outsiders. “You have to make your own decisions and accept that those decisions are yours. This will be rewarding for you,” he assured. And insist. “You can’t care what a man in a suit and tie thinks. Honestly, he’s lucky to be in the same room as you.” A great lesson in personal development.