Interview – He studied Jam Amal Khashogg’s murder and Alexei Navalny’s poisoning as a UN instructor. He led by Amnesty International, he pushes the life of human rights.
Iraq, Uganda, Afghanistan, El Salvador has been traveling to the conflict zones for almost forty years to help the deadly population and condemn the authors. Doctor of Political Science, Former Doctor of Columbia University in Politzus, is headed by Amnesty International. An extraordinary journey for this sore daughter, which was born in Isium, also investigated the direct responsibility of Saudi Arabia Ben Salmane, which took place at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul. To release his testimony, Investigator at the UN, He gives us his obligations.
Madame Figaro. – Did you dedicate your life to the human rights struggle? Where do you draw from this power?
Agnès Callamard. – Always, what drives me out is outrage. My grandfather, Leon Savuox, was shot by the Germans in 1944. I built myself with this hero. But no saying is enough, you have to do something to move on. Nothing has been prevented by a woman like me, which should work at the UN International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International International Council.
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Your missions when you were investigator at the UN.
I was named a special rapporteur by the UN Human Rights Council. We are the eyes and ears of the United Nations, where there are human rights violations. I refer to a summary, arbitrary or extrajudicial execution, that is, the legal trial of governments or their agents. In this context, we collect evidence to write a public report to put pressure on the states or leaders on the authors. It’s volunteer work, but it’s time, because in every investigation, the truth must be questioned. For this, it should not be discussed for the impact report.
Did you hear the recording of the death of a Khashog journalist? How to protect yourself from unexplainable?
– What are you feeling? ” I was often asked about these recordings collected by Turkish intelligence services. I answer. “I didn’t feel, I worked.” Because we were banned, my team and I to make notes, you need to stay focused on remembering the maximum. In that case, the terrorist attack arose, too, too sadness. But I especially chase the living, those who loved these killed creatures because I said. “I acted enough for them.” What we owe Jamal Khashogin is justice. I wrote my report for his memorial and his loved ones because I wanted them to know that the United Nations worked for them. And we were able to publish the responsibility of man, as much as Muhammad bin Salman, the Crown Prince Ben Ben Ben Ben Ben, the death of their loved ones.
In 2020, you also studied the attempted murder in the poison of Alexei Navalni, this Russian opponent, who died four years later in the penitentiary colony …
When I started an investigation, we were in the middle of the epidemic, and I received freedom to meet, Berlin, Berlin, Iulia Navalaya, his partner, wife, and bravery. A few weeks later, when it left Koma, I also managed to meet Alexei. Thanks to the work of many testimonies and experts, I managed to prove that the improved version of NoviCock, the poison used during the tried murder could only be performed in the official Russian laboratory. And all the elements coincide with the immediate responsibility of the Russian leaders. It is not my great regret that he could not persuade Alexei Naval not to return to Russia, where he was immediately arrested and convicted. As Amnesty International’s Secretary General, I wrote to Vladimir Putin and the prison director, to say that his detention conditions are a way of torture. On February 16, 2024, his death destroyed me. What huge loss is for democracy?
It is not my great regret that he could not persuade Alexei Naval not to return to Russia, where he was immediately arrested and sentenced to a heavy penalty.
AGNÈS CALLAMARD
How do you live in the sometimes violent attacks of states or leaders that you assume?
I take them seriously, but especially since I see them as a tool to strengthen the legitimacy of my work. He who threatened me the most was former Philippines President Rodrigo Dehtroth. I’m still a passport in the country, I still have five trials against me that we are in the process of canceling. This dictator had the right to his population and death. But today he is waiting for the International Criminal Court of Trial. It should also be given this message. When you fight, you can get there, there is hope …
You also suffered from sexism, even in organizations that must protect all human rights …
Today, femininization is going on in NGOs, but when I started, it was a very male universe. In the late 1990s, as Pierre Sanee Cabinet, the International Secretary General of Amnesty, I struggled to ensure that the term “human rights” turned into English terminology, which has always been talked about. Human rights. My report led to the 1999 vote on Amnesty International, and today all the texts lead “human rights”. I am proud to be in the origins, but this struggle was difficult, I even had to file a complaint against the background of heated remarks.
However, this change is not only semantically, but significant …
When the international main legal texts were written, immediately after World War II, lawyers, lawyers and politicians were. And the commentary of the values was solely man, we talked about human rights, with a small “H”. For a long time, rape is not considered the action of torture, as the rapist did it to have fun and not create information. I struggled to rape too, as well as the action of torture, and all legal texts take into account women’s experience.
I refer to a summary, arbitrary or extrajudicial execution, that is, the legal trial of governments or their agents
AGNÈS CALLAMARD
What is unworthy today?
In Ukraine, Gaza, Sudan, Syria and many other places in the world, the situation is terrible for the civilian population. There have always been conflicts, but trump paper is getting things heavy. I have learned and worked in the United States and what happens to me. This people, who said that the Rampart fell into a fascism that changed the face of the world. The impact is already there, the help of which is drastically removed and health. The suspension of humanitarian aid in Sudan will bring a huge drama. This era is characterized by the destruction of international law.
Does the world have effective tools to limit the impact of these movements?
Many people aren’t too much. We don’t see an incident in history but a deep transformation. No one has been prepared, you have to answer it by posting yourself. During the amnesty, we work on a program called “resistance” to adapt to new tools to adapt to this uprising. We need to offer people to make funds because the whole world is in danger.
Was the word “value” abandoned through an emergency policy of emergency?
My message is very simple. “Reply to military and economic risks, but don’t forget the values.” Ukrainians do not fight for rare ores, but for their freedom and idea of mankind.
I have written my report in memory of Jam Amal Khashogi and his relatives, because I wanted them to know that the United Nations worked for them.
AGNÈS CALLAMARD
Pessimistic are you?
It’s hard to be optimistic. But I have confidence in our ability to tell us, in particular, we are French. I see people all over the world who are fighting. I’m worried about the fact that men and women will resist, but some will die. This battle of life and freedom will not be won in a few months, it will be necessary to fight in the long run, plan yourself from the world’s cargo worldwide.
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Source: Le Figaro
